Fishing

One of them things that gives you a chill

Brothers Jacques and Tony LeBlanc describe their feelings the moment they learned that their tribe was victorious in federal court, ensuring that the state could no longer deny the tribe their right to fish under treaties. They regret that theiur father, Albert "Big Abe" LeBlanc was did not live to see the successful resolution of the case he initiated. The two brothers describe their pride in the recognition of their father's efforts by tribal members and others. (interviewer: Veronica Pasfield; interviewed June 30, 2008)

Lets do something different next time (beach tarp)

Brothers Jacques and Tony LeBlanc describe the constant creativity and adaptation required of tribal fishermen because of the interference of the Department of Natural Resources officers and others. Tony describes a particular instance along Petoskey Beach, before courts acknowledged the tribe's right to fish, when a DNR officer was about to catch them at night. The family hid their small row boat in the woods and returned to the beach to collect their gear. With the DNR officer approaching, they concluded they could not run without attracting attention. They hid under a green tarp they "puffed it up" to resemble a rock. The boys could hear footsteps as one officer told the other "look at everything because them guys hide with the best of them". The officers walked passed and down the beach and the boys came out from the tarp and made their escape. (interviewed June 30, 2008)

Let them nets go

Brothers Jacques and Tony LeBlanc explain how they would tie their father's nets to rocks or logs along the beach. When Department of Natural Resources officers or others attempted to catch the LeBlancs, their father, Albert "Big Abe" LeBlanc, would instruct the boys to run along the beach with a knife and cut the string and the nets would sink about 25 feet below the surface. The officers would only find pieces of string along the beach. Later the family would retrieve the nets and the fish with grapple hooks. (interviewed June 30, 2008)

Just how we grew up

Brothers Jacques and Tony LeBlanc recall how they viewed the many high-profile initiatives of their father Albert "Big Abe" LeBlanc. They explain that as children they were unaware of the legacy being created because for them it was just a part of growing up.

It became a big family thing

Brothers Jacques and Tony LeBlanc recount the ways their entire family was involved in their father's (Albert "Big Abe" Leblanc) fishing operations. Their sisters worked cleaning fish in the processing facility.

How did that affect your mom?

Brothers Jacques and Tony LeBlanc consider the impact on their mother arising from their family's efforts to defend their treaty rights as well as the dangers of fishing the Great Lakes. (Interviewed June 30, 2008)

He knew he had that right

Brothers Tony LeBlanc and Jacques LeBlanc describe the efforts of their father Albert "Big Abe" LeBlanc to challenge the authority of state officials to regulate his right to fish as a member of the Bay Mills Indian Community. Jacques describes how his father contacted the Michigan Department of Natural Resources to tell them of his intention to fish off of Pendil's Bay, inviting a ticket in order to initiate a legal challenge to the state's claim of authority. Tony LeBlanc recounts how his father told the Chairman that the tribe had the right to fish in the Great Lakes. The Chairman did not want to challenge to the state, so his father decided to force the issue. (Opening narration: Trond Jacobsen; Interviewer: Veronica Pasfield; Interviewed June 30, 2008 at the Bay Mills History Department)

Gotta a good rapport going

Tony LeBlanc describes the rapport with sports fishermen he has developed over many years of exercising his rights to fish. After years of harassment and intimidation, most local sports fisherman have come to realize Mr. LeBlanc will continue to fish and that it was in their self-interest to cooperate so they could avoid becoming entangled in his nets. Mr. LeBlanc describes an incident several years earlier in which local sports fishermen popped the anchors on his nets. When the leader of a local sports fishing tournament approached to ask where he had set his nets, Mr. LeBlanc replied that he would not disclose the location unless sports fishermen refrained from interfering with his nets. Mr. LeBlanc has never had another problem with people popping his anchors. (Interviewed June 30, 2008 at the Bay Mills History Department)

Get the flashlight outta my face

Brothers Tony LeBlanc and Jacques LeBlanc describe an incident in which a DNR official approached their father Albert "Big Abe" LeBlanc to confiscate fish. At a shack called the Blockhouse, where the fisherman stored materials for Buddy Brown's fishing operation, the young brothers and their father were enjoying a break between runs to bring fish from the beach to their truck. Their father noticed a light through the trees approaching them. Officer Cecil Taylor approached, shining his flashlight in Big Abe's face. Big Abe told the officer to get the flashlight out of his face. The DNR officers told Big Abe they intended to confiscate all the fish loaded into the back of his pickup. Big Abe replied they could have the fish, but only what they could reach without touching his truck because they had no warrant to search the vehicle. (Interviewed June 30, 2008 at the Bay Mills History Department)

Deadliest catch

Tony LeBlanc describes running his boat during a storm in 2007. Waves were crashing over the boat even though LeBlanc and his crew were close to shore. In the spirit of his dangerous occupation, Mr. LeBlanc also describes his love for the fishing show "Deadliest Catch".

Always wanted to be around him

Brothers Tony and Jacques LeBlanc describe their feelings as children and young men for the father, Albert "Big Abe" LeBlanc.

Fishing: An Industry, a Right, and a Life Support

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by Bill LeBlanc, tribal elder and former chairman of the Michigan Commission on Indian Affairs

Fishing was and is a core way of life for the Ojibwe, especially the Bay Mills Indian Community. Historically, our tribe lived on the water in many locations and fish were caught for food and trade. The Anishnabeg have always developed and adopted new technologies to fish, from spears, hooks, dip nets and gill nets to catch plentiful whitefish and herring. At the beginning of the twentieth century, tribal commercial fishing was expanded to supply markets in Chicago and New York.

For generations after the treaties in the 1800s, tribal fishermen bought state licenses and complied with state laws and fishing rules. But because they were always small—mostly family operations—Indian fishermen became the victim of the state’s attempt to limit licenses and develop bigger fisheries.

According to Prof. Charles E. Cleland, author of The Place of the Pike (Gnoozhekaaning): A History of the Bay Mills Indian Community, "When in the 1960s the state decided unilaterally to rapidly transform the Great Lakes fishery from a commercial to a sports enterprise, conditions became intolerable. State fishery managers decided that a nonnative species, the salmon, and stocked lake trout would be the prime game fish. Soon they began a campaign to rid the lakes of gill nets, which the DNR Fishery Division and the sport fishing lobby saw as damaging to the (rapid restocking of salmon and fish). State conservation officers redoubled their efforts in arresting Indian fishermen and confiscating their boats and nets."

The beneficiaries of the new policy were the large non-Indian commercial fishermen who were already in business. Most of the Indian fishermen who lost their licenses still needed to fish in order to feed their families—and so began an era of defiance, arrest, fines and confiscated nets. State harassment added another cost to an already-costly business. The tribal fishermen had no choice but to pay up and continue to fish.

After the limit on fishing licenses in the 1970s, much of the fishing had to be conducted under cover of darkness. Bay Mills fishermen and their helpers devised ingenious ways to get around this situation (but you'll have to ask them about it, or see our interview of Big Abe LeBlanc's sons on this site). This made fishing an even more dangerous occupation. Confiscation of nets put many tribal fishermen out of business because they could not replace the lost nets.

Now denied a livelihood, these hard-working fishermen and their families were forced onto welfare or into working for another fisherman—often for very low wages and long hours. The situation became intolerable. One of those men, whose contact with the law had been frequent, decided that he was going to exercise his treaty-protected rights. Enter Big Abe LeBlanc.

LeBlanc challenged the DNR to arrest him. He and other tribal fishermen such as Skip Parrish fished openly and, of course, many got arrested. Local courts convicted Abe. Luckily, on appeal and eventually through the federal court system, his case was overturned and tribal fishing was reaffirmed by the courts as a treaty right on May 7, 1979.

Big Abe was one of the many modern warriors who fought successfully for Indian rights. A building has been named in his honor in Sault Ste. Marie to commemorate his service to the people.

We also honor the many other fishing heroes who did and are fighting to keep our core lifestyle alive. You can see an interview with Skip Parish, a fishing protester from that era who still fishes on this site. He also shares some info on fishing in the section below.

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The Brad and Cole Show

The Brad and Cole Show Produced by Brad and Cole Tadgerson Brad writes: "Cole, Kelsi, and I went fishing in our secret spot. The first day we didn’t catch nothing. We put the lure (that I lost -- it was my favorite lure and cole ran it over with the boat. But can't blame him for it -- I lost one before that and it was all my fault.) on the pole and casted it out. But when that one didn’t work, we tried a different one and when that one didn’t work we tried another and this process went on from 12 PM until 8 PM. But the second day, I myself caught two pike and my girlfriend, who likes to fish, caught a walleye. I went out in the boat and I put my lure on and I casted it out and within 20-25 minutes I had one on. It fought like me in my younger days. While all that was happening, I had a nice size perch on my pole at the dock, but it was bait and when I rowed to bring my 28” pike to shore, I had another pike on my pole that was at the dock. So I pulled that one in. It was just a little smaller and then I threw the bait back out in the water and went back in the boat. I was out there for a while then I got hungry, so I went back to shore and ate spaghetti. It was really good. Now remember, I still had my bait out in the water so I still had a chance to get another one. And it happened the bobber went down, but I was eating and Cole was done. So he ran down the hill grabbed the pole and he reeled and reeled, but the fish was so big it broke the 80 lb leader. Yep, Cole lost my fish that was on my pole. He should of let a man reel it in and then maybe, just maybe, we would have the fish here with us and have probably the biggest fish we ever pulled out of there. But the best time in the boat fishing is when I was about 13 or 14. I had my pole out in the water casting and I was just about to lift it out of the water and the biggest fish I had ever seen came out of the water. The head on this sucker had to be as big or bigger then a basketball. I'm telling you, this fish was huge. But any how, the fish broke my line as soon as it took my lure. Then later that day the fish must have been tuckered out after dragging that lure around and another guy in a different boat saw it surface with the lure in its mouth. He said that that was the biggest fish that he had ever seen, so this sucker was big. But any how this is my story on fishing and that is how our days went. P.S. We didn't really get any good film because the day we brang the camera we didn't catch nothing. Figures, hey."

Spearfishing Controversy: Native Fishermen Attacked

In the 1980's there was a lot of hostile and horrible acts going towards Ojibwe tribes for spearfishing. The types of hostile acts was shooting at the natives going out to spear the walleye at night. Or some of the white men and some woman would throw sticks and other types of things at them.

There wasn't to much controversy up in Bay Mills. Ware there was a lot of it was in Wisconsin at Big Lac. The white people would shoot holes in the boats or they would go in there own boats and drive rite bye them and splash them or worse hit them with blunt objects.

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Spearfishing

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Spearfishing now days is almost the same as us native people did back in the day. Such as now days we spearfish on the ice and we use to hundreds of years ago. Also, we spear Rainbow trout in the creeks, spear walleye along the rocky shores of Lake Superior.

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BMIC Fishing and Hunting Regulations: Conservation Code

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Trapnet Fishing

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In the late 1960s, the Michigan Natural Resources Commission issued orders that banned large-mesh gill nets and required replacement of gill nets with impoundment gear (trap nets). The intent of the ban was to "encourage conversion to the more selective, highly efficient, less damaging, trap nets, which were considered to be compatible with the goals of lake trout restoration" (Rybicki and Schneeberger, Recent history and management of the State-licensed commercial fishery for lake whitefish in the Michigan Waters of Lake Michigan. Michigan DNR, Fisheries Research Report No.1960, 1990).

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Inland Fishing Rights And Regulations

Inland Fishing:

- All Inland Fishing pursuant to tribal permit shall be limited to waters within the 1836 Treaty area located in the authorized twelve (12) counties.

Permitted Methods:

- All Inland Fishing shall be limited to methods authorized by state law.

Bag limits:

- All bag limits for each area and species shall be limited to the authorized by state law.

"The Regulation's"

21.313 Permit fees.

- Fees may be charged by the Conservation Committee for issuance of the permits required by 21.401 and 21.501.

21.314 Amendment by Committee.

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Skip Talks About Trap Nets

In an interview in July, 2008, Skip Parish, a lifetime fisherman in the Bay Mills community, discusses the workings of traditional trap nets, which are quite different from gill nets.

Skips Story about the Waters of The Day The Edmund Fitzgerald Went Down

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