He knew he had that right

Brothers Tony LeBlanc and Jacques LeBlanc describe the efforts of their father Albert "Big Abe" LeBlanc to challenge the authority of state officials to regulate his right to fish as a member of the Bay Mills Indian Community.

Jacques describes how his father contacted the Michigan Department of Natural Resources to tell them of his intention to fish off of Pendil's Bay, inviting a ticket in order to initiate a legal challenge to the state's claim of authority.

Tony LeBlanc recounts how his father told the Chairman that the tribe had the right to fish in the Great Lakes. The Chairman did not want to challenge to the state, so his father decided to force the issue.

(Opening narration: Trond Jacobsen; Interviewer: Veronica Pasfield; Interviewed June 30, 2008 at the Bay Mills History Department)